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EQA250 Auto lighting - how to disable auto high beam

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I leave the light switch on my EQA250 in the Auto position, but one aspect of this which I dislike - and suspect may even be illegal - is that when travelling at night on an urban street with no other car in the near vicinity, the headlights automatically switch to high beam.

I have previously owned cars which had a setting within the Auto setting which offered the option of 'auto high/low beam' or 'manual high/low beam'. More recently, I owned an Australian spec. Honda CR-V in which an adjustable sensitivity setting had a similar effect.

The only solution I can find to avoid high/low beam switching automatically in the EQA250 is to select 'headlights' on the lighting switch. In that setting, you switch between high and low beam manually. The problem with that is the next time I drive the car I'll forget that my lights aren't on the Auto setting!

I would be grateful if someone could put me right on something I've overlooked.
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Leave the rotary switch in Auto, but move the stalk to the low beam setting (towards the driver).
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Thanks, dBC. I have only been aware of the auto high beam issue recently, so my last reset of the stalk must have been towards the dash (high beam).

A nice, simple solution!

I'll test it next time I drive in the suburbs at night.
I had the Auto/'auto high beam on' experience last night and after pulling the stalk towards me a couple of times with no apparent effect, I pushed it towards the dash and that seemed to do the trick (i.e. 'deactivated' it).

If my memory serves me correctly, once the automatic high beam on/off function is 'deactivated' it has remained 'deactivated' upon successive restarts. Hopefully, that remains the case; in other words, I hope it doesn't require a reset to 'deactivated' each time I drive the car.
Hmmm.. that's all very strange. The stalk in my EQC behaves pretty much the same as my Toyota and every other car I've driven. It has 3 positions in that direction - 2 of them fixed and the third a spring-loaded momentary position:

1. closest to the dashboard - high beam on (or auto high beam enabled)
2. closest to the driver - high beam off
3. really close to the driver held against a spring - flash the lights
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There's also an indicator on the dash to show you when auto high beam is enabled:

Speedometer Trip computer Tachometer Gauge Vehicle

Auto high beam enabled, stalk closest to the dash (position 1 in my list above)


Vehicle Speedometer Trip computer Gauge Tachometer

Low beam selected, stalk closest to the driver (position 2 in my list above).

The green icon turns blue when the high beam is actually on.
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I just had a read of the EQA owners manual, and it looks like it is indeed different. Does your stalk only have one position it can rest in, with both towards the dash and towards the driver being spring-loaded?
I just had a read of the EQA owners manual, and it looks like it is indeed different. Does your stalk only have one position it can rest in, with both towards the dash and towards the driver being spring-loaded?
Yes, the EQA does seem to differ from the EQC: the indicator / headlamp beam stalk only has a momentary (spring-loaded) switching function, either towards the driver or towards the dash, from a resting central position.
OK, apologies for introducing EQC noise to your EQA topic. It looks like instead of having a two-position stalk, the EQA has a toggle that flips state each time you press it towards the dash. Hopefully with the help of the light icons shown above you can nail it.
No problem, dBC. You set me on the right track; it's just a matter of adapting the technique to suit the EQA.

The light icons are quite helpful, although with my preferred seating position and steering wheel adjustment I don't have a clear view of the entire 'main dashboard'. In the main that doesn't bother me, as I use - and like, despite initial concerns - the HUD for the main information.

The main omission for me in the HUD is a repeater for the regen braking setting, as I move through the range D--/D-/D/D+ all the time. I would regard a line of sight visual indicator of the current setting as a worthwhile ergonomic enhancement.

I reiterate that I hope my present setting for the Auto headlamp function is maintained between journeys; otherwise, it's just another thing to have to keep resetting. From memory, I think the car will retain my present setting as long as I only move the indicator stalk to activate the indicators.
I reiterate that I hope my present setting for the Auto headlamp function is maintained between journeys; otherwise, it's just another thing to have to keep resetting. From memory, I think the car will retain my present setting as long as I only move the indicator stalk to activate the indicators.
Referring to my previous posts, I drove the car again last night and without any 'in-out' (towards dash-towards driver) movement of the indicator stalk, the previously-disabled automatic high/low beam function seemed to retain its functionality after several restarts (i.e. the headlamps turned on automatically and remained on low beam, even in dark areas where one would expect them - without auto low/high beam disabled - to switch to high beam).

This suits my preference to leave my lighting switch on Auto, but to only have low (headlamp) beam in built-up urban areas - which is where I drive most of the time.
I have an EQS and when the lighte are set to auto with high beam option they automatically dim when an oncoming car is detected. Not sure if your model does the same.
I have an EQS and when the lights are set to auto with high beam option they automatically dim when an oncoming car is detected. Not sure if your model does the same.
Yes, my EQA250 is the same; however, I am unsure whether the EQS has the same momentary switch (steering column lighting stalk) function as my EQA, or whether it's similar to dBC's EQC (see posts #5 and 6 above).

One might quite reasonably ask why I would want to disable what is arguably a useful piece of technology (my original post in this thread). Most of my driving is in built-up urban areas, where I don't consider high beam is necessary, or appropriate. Indeed, in my earlier years driving - I got my driving licence at 16 and I'm now 75 - I understood that it was illegal to use high beam in urban areas in my home state, South Australia. Presumably it either never was, or is no longer illegal, otherwise I assume auto high/low beam would be disallowed under the Australian (motor vehicle) Design Rules (ADRs).

Why don't I like auto high/low beam? Whilst the Mercedes system does seem to dip the headlamps (from high to low) quite quickly when the car identifies another vehicle, I think in normal circumstances in urban areas it's unnecessary and impolite to impose high beam - even momentarily - on other road users. As far as momentary use of high beam is concerned, I concede that headlamp flashing has its place in emergency situations, for example. In normal urban driving, however, I don't perceive a need for high beam. I have received headlamp flashes from other drivers who have turned into a street and found my headlamps on high beam, if only for a moment, prior to automatically dipping. In such circumstances, I've had no need for high beam and I think the other driver's response is warranted. I have also experienced situations where my auto high beam has unnecessarily illuminated other cars in various situations such as: passing through an intersection, reversing out of a driveway and persons sitting in a parked car, being subjected to (uncomfortable) bright lighting. As a responsible road user, I prefer not to subject others to this discomfort, let alone, risk to safety.

I haven't driven my EQA very many times in the country, but I remember the first such occasion. It was a reasonably long journey and I was flashed several times by other drivers who obviously felt inconvenienced by the threshold of my car's dipping system, which exposed them to high beam for a period which they obviously found uncomfortable. I recall saying to myself "I don't disagree with you and I wish I could find out how to control these lights manually". I have since discovered that by moving the lighting switch to the 'headlamp on' position, activation of the headlamp stalk switches the headlamps between low and high beam. I much prefer that arrangement for night time country driving. I can then set my own threshold of high beam exposure to other road users and if that's more conservative than the Mercedes threshold, I'm happy to slow down a little whilst driving for slightly longer on low beam.

I agree that the auto-dipping function has the potential to increase safety and comfort compared with the (often encountered) situation where drivers don't seem to realise (or don't care) that their headlamps are on high beam, but in my opinion it's not universally successful.

As a generalisation, I find that modern headlamps are becoming increasingly more powerful, so technology designed to avert their misuse has merit.
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Ahh Good Old South Australia where all good things are born including me... the place I learnt to drive for 26 years.. Is the Devils Elbow still there when you are coming into Adelaide ??? The old high beam flash not as common here in Netherlands where I live now but I do recall when driving back down under when I had an X3 which was around the same size as the EQA I got flashed all the time because the lights sat higher they were hitting people right in the eye-line. Now even though the light technology was different BiXenon v LED the EQA LED's even on low beam are bright. I haven't noticed my High Beam coming on here in Amsterdam when driving around the city but I have only had the car a few weeks and haven't really done a lot of night driving and wont now as we are rolling closer to summer the daylight is crazy long here so I wont get a real chance to see how much I will miss my old A200 Sedan's MultiBeam LED's until winter when its dark around 16:30 and you dont see the sun again until 09:00 I dont understand why Mercedes didn't put the Multibeam Option on the EQA as its available on the GLA I think its a real oppurtunity missed. It was very intelligent lighting and I think you would find in S.A a big reduction on being flashed as the MultiBeam LED cuts the light out around the oncoming car , pedestrian even street signs that have higher reflection. You really do get to see it at work during fogy days and looks impressive. Alas I will have to make do with what the EQA has but I do understand your point about being a responsible road user I wish more people acted that way today but sadly we are a rare breed
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Good to hear from you, Pacman-BNE-NL.

Ahh Good Old South Australia where all good things are born including me... the place I learnt to drive for 26 years.. Is the Devils Elbow still there when you are coming into Adelaide ???
Yes, the Devil's Elbow is still there, and the winding section of road running up past the old Eagle-on-the-Hill hotel can still be used (at low speed, apart from closed-road motor sporting events), but since the late 1990s the section of road from just below the Devil's Elbow to Measday's Hill (just below Crafers) has been replaced by a 6-lane freeway. The freeway is much straighter than the bypassed section of road and much steeper - and includes a short tunnel. The new road is much quicker - but less interesting - for light vehicles, but the steep gradient has caught out several heavy vehicles and there have been some nasty accidents at the edge of the city due to brake failure (i.e. the drivers of those heavy vehicles haven't selected a sufficiently low gear for the descent).

The old high beam flash not as common here in Netherlands where I live now but I do recall when driving back down under when I had an X3 which was around the same size as the EQA I got flashed all the time because the lights sat higher they were hitting people right in the eye-line.
I wouldn't say headlamp flashing is common here, but you do see it from time to time. Sometimes, during daylight, drivers flash to warn oncoming motorists that they're approaching a speed camera. Given that the stated aim of speed cameras is to encourage drivers to keep their speed in check, perhaps in this context the headlamp flash can be classed as a community service, although I don't think the police would agree.

I haven't noticed my High Beam coming on here in Amsterdam when driving around the city but I have only had the car a few weeks and haven't really done a lot of night driving and wont now as we are rolling closer to summer the daylight is crazy long here so I wont get a real chance to see how much I will miss my old A200 Sedan's MultiBeam LED's until winter when its dark around 16:30 and you dont see the sun again until 09:00
If you leave the lighting switched to Auto and you haven't noticed your EQA300 switch to high beam when driven at night in poorly lit areas - or areas without other traffic - maybe it's currently configured so that it's not switching to high beam in such circumstances. That's how my EQA250 is currently configured. I presume, of course, that the the Netherlands motor vehicle regulations permit automatic low/high headlamp beam activation.

I dont understand why Mercedes didn't put the Multibeam Option on the EQA as its available on the GLA I think its a real oppurtunity missed. It was very intelligent lighting and I think you would find in S.A a big reduction on being flashed as the MultiBeam LED cuts the light out around the oncoming car , pedestrian even street signs that have higher reflection. You really do get to see it at work during fogy days and looks impressive. Alas I will have to make do with what the EQA has but I do understand your point about being a responsible road user I wish more people acted that way today but sadly we are a rare breed
I agree, there's some smart technology about and no doubt it will only improve with time.

My comments relate to what my EQA250 currently offers. In my opinion it's good - even helpful at times - but I don't believe it's a substitute for responsible driver intervention.
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