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Boerboel said:
The opening at it's widest is 41", deepest is 39' usable, the height at which the tailgate would become a factor is 16" (which is the notch for the retractable cargo cover) and there's 24" of depth at that height. This bag is bigger than a standard 22" carryon bag but not not one of the large roller bags that have to be checked. I'd say at least 4 of those could fit but I'd guess only 3 of the large bags would fit. MAYBE 4 if stacked to the ceiling but I doubt it. The bag on the side would fit farther back if the retractable cover is removed.
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Thank you for doing this. I'm trying to project your post onto any of these scenarios, given the luggage dimensions shown. I'm thinking maybe the orange scenario, with an above video indicating a floor depth of 37"?

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· #42 · 2 mo ago

Boerboel said:
We traded-in our 2020 GLE350 for this EQE 350+.

One question, is the rear turn signal red or amber?
I saw some of the new MBs have amber rear signal and I hope they would do this for North American EQE SUV. Thx!

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Discussion Starter · #43 · 2 mo ago

nismodrifter said:
Thank you sir for the detailed measurements and pictures. It is most appreciated. Those numbers re: the depth at 16 inches of height are exactly what I was after. Looks like retractable cover would have to go if stuffing the cargo area with luggage area or any other tall items (I do this in my current vehicle anyways). I believe those seatbacks can push forward into a more upright position giving an additional few inches of space.

See 4:20 in this video

I don't believe the rear seats can be moved forward and still be occupied but I'll check. It has a similar mechanism as the 2020 GLE and that was either latched or not. I guess you could pop them our of latched, load the bags, and then put them back and have people sit in them - the seat belts are attached to the frame behind the seat.

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Discussion Starter · #44 · 2 mo ago

nosnoop said:
One question, is the rear turn signal red or amber?
I saw some of the new MBs have amber rear signal and I hope they would do this for North American EQE SUV. Thx!

Just checked... it's amber.

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Discussion Starter · #45 · 2 mo ago

Sportstick said:
Thank you for doing this. I'm trying to project your post onto any of these scenarios, given the luggage dimensions shown. I'm thinking maybe the orange scenario, with an above video indicating a floor depth of 37"?
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I'll try to do some mental spacial gymnastics tomorrow. I don't think the middle one will work if the front one is 19" wide... maybe if it's soft.

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· #46 · 2 mo ago

Boerboel said:
Just checked... it's amber.

Thanks! I'm sold

I'm glad that Mercedes has finally done the right thing. Never understood the reason for German manufacturers for making a special rear turn signal just for North American market, and a "normal" one for the rest of the world. VW has also switched to rear amber turn signal. Hopefully, BMW, Audi and Porsche would follow this lead.

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· #47 · 2 mo ago

nosnoop said:
Thanks! I'm sold
I'm glad that Mercedes has finally done the right thing. Never understood the reason for German manufacturers for making a special rear turn signal just for North American market, and a "normal" one for the rest of the world. VW has also switched to rear amber turn signal. Hopefully, BMW, Audi and Porsche would follow this lead.

In most of the markets with amber turn signals it is the result of regulatory requirements. NHTSA does not have this same requirement in the 100 Series FMVSS. The various OEMs have historically realized that the cost of complexity for maintaining two different tail lamps and associated wiring harnesses in the plant was less than the variable piece cost increment of an assembly with the additional circuit for lighting up a separate bulb behind an amber lens. In my prior career at one such OEM, this issue arose more than once and the answer from Engineering was always the same. With the advent of LED taillamps, the economics may have changed or some OEMs may now value complexity reduction more or believe the amber turn signal will be more helpful in closing enough sales to make a difference, or some combination of those reasons.

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· #48 · 2 mo ago

Sportstick said:
In most of the markets with amber turn signals it is the result of regulatory requirements. NHTSA does not have this same requirement in the 100 Series FMVSS. The various OEMs have historically realized that the cost of complexity for maintaining two different tail lamps and associated wiring harnesses in the plant was less than the variable piece cost increment of an assembly with the additional circuit for lighting up a separate bulb behind an amber lens.

I do understand the economics of such decision in the old days, especially having a single piece of red lens for rear light cluster is likely much cheaper than a red/amber combination lens. But with LEDs, and light functions by software programming, such intentional change for North American markets with little cost saving do not make sense to me at all. NHTSA has conducted analysis in 2008 and 2009 and concluded that Amber Rear turn signals do significantly reduce rear ended crash. This makes it more puzzling for German manufacturers to insist on rear red turn signal for North American markets when they pride themselves on superior safety. And in many cases, you can see that the rear lights do not light up as they were designed (blinking everything together instead of individual groups of brake LEDs, turn LEDs, parking light LEDs as it was designed).

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· #49 · 2 mo ago

nosnoop said:
I do understand the economics of such decision in the old days, especially having a single piece of red lens for rear light cluster is likely much cheaper than a red/amber combination lens. But with LEDs, and light functions by software programming, such intentional change for North American markets with little cost saving do not make sense to me at all. NHTSA has conducted analysis in 2008 and 2009 and concluded that Amber Rear turn signals do significantly reduce rear ended crash. This makes it more puzzling for German manufacturers to insist on rear red turn signal for North American markets when they pride themselves on superior safety. And in many cases, you can see that the rear lights do not light up as they were designed (blinking everything together instead of individual groups of brake LEDs, turn LEDs, parking light LEDs as it was designed).

I agree with you about the factual evidence for amber turn signals/4-way hazard flashers. As to why some OEMs continue to differentiate by regulatorily-required market versus not, I can only assume some economic incentive remains. As to what they pride themselves on, impact management by the vehicle structure has been the historic German differentiator in marketing safety with accidence avoidance being a more recent development. Considering that, what would you expect to find if you asked n=100 owners of German vehicles, or indeed, any vehicles, if their turn signals are red or amber without them checking first? Those of us on a forum are not quite representative of the general population and are not a large enough target market to sustain a vehicle program sales, so our higher level involvement/wants/needs are not primary. I recall my favorite extreme example of gen pop "car involvement" when we went around the room of focus group respondents for them to introduce themselves and their vehicles. One young lady replied "Blue". When pushed a bit, she said "Saturn" (this goes back a few years!). When asked for more detail if it was a 2 door or 4 door, she didn't know and had to go out to the parking lot to check. Seriously.

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· #50 · 2 mo ago

Boerboel said:
We traded-in our 2020 GLE350 for this EQE 350+. I haven't driven it, yet, as it's my wife's car and we just picked it up. It's Selenite Gray with the Maybach wheels and Neva Gray/Sable Brown MB Tex. I actually like the MB Tex - it's very supple feeling. Let me know if anyone has specific questions or wants me to look at something.
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· #51 · 2 mo ago

I keep coming back to this thread just to look at your interior. The neva grey + sable brown looks great.
I personally am a fan of MB-Tex. Easy to maintain.

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· #52 · 2 mo ago

nismodrifter said:
I keep coming back to this thread just to look at your interior. The neva grey + sable brown looks great.
I personally am a fan of MB-Tex. Easy to maintain.

Here it is in Nappa. Hoping to pair this with Sonora Brown exterior for 2024. MBTex should be the same color coordination, but I don't think you can get multicontour seats with it.

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· #53 · 2 mo ago

My garage have been in contact to say they have an EQE SUV on order expected build June and delivery in the summer🤷‍♀️ inviting me to look at the brochure and specs and to come in and look at the EQE saloon to get an idea on the EQE interior feel etc and have a preliminary chat. We will be doing so and it feels as if Mercedes are seeking out the sale which is good news for me. My EQC will be a good trade in for them to use in the secondhand market as I have looked after the battery. It was built before the major despeccing too so apart from augmented reality everything else is there unlike later builds.

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Parkwood

· #54 · 2 mo ago

A question are there electric release buttons in the boot area to drop the rear seat backs?

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nismodrifter

· #55 · 2 mo ago

^@Parkwood From all of the videos I have watched I have not seen any electric release buttons.

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· #56 · 2 mo ago

nismodrifter said:
^@Parkwood From all of the videos I have watched I have not seen any electric release buttons.

That is seriously bad I have had them since 2015 and the e and c class had them alongside the rear passenger seats too but that disappeared with the EQC. To have to struggle and lean over into the boot to release the seats or go round and open the doors is pretty poor for a car in this price range!

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Discussion Starter · #57 · 2 mo ago

Parkwood said:
That is seriously bad I have had them since 2015 and the e and c class had them alongside the rear passenger seats too but that disappeared with the EQC. To have to struggle and lean over into the boot to release the seats or go round and open the doors is pretty poor for a car in this price range!

Our's does not have an electric release but the release is easily accessible from outside the vehicle with the rear doors open. It's in the top of the seat bolster on the outside shoulder.

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· #58 · 2 mo ago

Parkwood said:
A question are there electric release buttons in the boot area to drop the rear seat backs?

I would be OK with electric, electromechanical, or manual utilizing the forward spring tension of the seatbacks, but no release at all is quite surprising to me too. Could anyone with hands-on with a vehicle share what is in this red circled area? That looks like the natural location for a seatback release as has been done by other OEMs.

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Discussion Starter · #59 · 2 mo ago

Sportstick said:
I would be OK with electric, electromechanical, or manual utilizing the forward spring tension of the seatbacks, but no release at all is quite surprising to me too. Could anyone with hands-on with a vehicle share what is in this red circled area? That looks like the natural location for a seatback release as has been done by other OEMs.

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It's a cigarette lighter-style plug