[Sportstick]

I've been reading/watching reviews of EQS SUV as a close approximation of what we are ordering. Lots of very positive comments generally, but also a consistent discomfort with the self-moving brake pedal while using the regen function. Has anyone here driven this and experienced what they are describing?

 

[LAZARU5]

I drove a Tesla Model 3 for three years using the one pedal drying technique. I don’t miss one pedal driving in my Taycan and much prefer the blended friction/regenerative braking used by Porsche and MB. The Taycan at 5000+ pounds seems to coast forever. I think the EQE SUV will also coast further than the mileage that could be recovered with regen braking. I suspect (but don’t know for certain) that the self-moving brake pedal won’t move when regen is off.

 

[Sportstick]

I drove a Tesla Model 3 for three years using the one pedal drying technique. I don’t miss one pedal driving in my Taycan and much prefer the blended friction/regenerative braking used by Porsche and MB. The Taycan at 5000+ pounds seems to coast forever. I think the EQE SUV will also coast further than the mileage that could be recovered with regen braking. I suspect (but don’t know for certain) that the self-moving brake pedal won’t move when regen is off.

Yes, the reviews indicate the pedal does not move if regen is turned off. The reviews on the EQS SUV are so uniformly negative about the brake pedal feel/motion that it seemed concerning if one wished to benefit from regen in city traffic where coasting is not practical. I will be test driving an EQS SUV in about ten days, so I will see for myself, but wondered if there was any other experience on this forum. So far, it seems to be a very low activity forum...very quiet here.

 

[LAZARU5]

.....So far, it seems to be a very low activity forum...very quiet here.

Hopefully, once more EQ cars are on the road forum activity will pick up.

 

[Sportstick]

Hopefully, once more EQ cars are on the road forum activity will pick up.

Perhaps, I'm off-topic on my own thread, but the Fisker Ocean forum is an beehive of activity and they haven't revealed their final configurator nor built the first production vehicle yet! I guess different brands attract different personalities.

 

[LAZARU5]

....The reviews on the EQS SUV are so uniformly negative about the brake pedal feel/motion that it seemed concerning if one wished to benefit from regen in city traffic where coasting is not practical....

Getting back on topic....

With blended friction/regen braking you should get some regen braking when you step on the brake pedal in slow moving traffic even if the regen is turned off. If the traffic is moving so slowly that only friction braking is an option, then you won't gain anything with regen braking enabled. I think I can live with coasting as my default driving mode.

 

[Sportstick]

Getting back on topic....

With blended friction/regen braking you should get some regen braking when you step on the brake pedal in slow moving traffic even if the regen is turned off. If the traffic is moving so slowly that only friction braking is an option, then you won't gain anything with regen braking enabled. I think I can live with coasting as my default driving mode.

I also would probably find coasting most satisfying for overall smoothness and to eliminate the "phantom pedal" movement the writers noted. I won't miss the most energy with my short trips. I just don't recall reading such unanimity from any early test drives about a brake pedal motion before and not in a positive way.

 

[DanW]

I've been reading/watching reviews of EQS SUV as a close approximation of what we are ordering. Lots of very positive comments generally, but also a consistent discomfort with the self-moving brake pedal while using the regen function. Has anyone here driven this and experienced what they are describing?

I drove an EQS SUV 580 4matic a few weeks ago with the intent to tray and experience this self-moving brake concern. I noticed it when switching to full regen and it really is not a big deal at all. I believe those folks that are used to driving high performance cars take issue with this but those who drive regular cars don't notice anything significant. I decided to wait for the EQE SUV to come out before I decide on which car but would not hesitate to buy the EQS SUV.

 

[Sportstick]

I drove an EQS SUV 580 4matic a few weeks ago with the intent to tray and experience this self-moving brake concern. I noticed it when switching to full regen and it really is not a big deal at all. I believe those folks that are used to driving high performance cars take issue with this but those who drive regular cars don't notice anything significant. I decided to wait for the EQE SUV to come out before I decide on which car but would not hesitate to buy the EQS SUV.

Thank you DanW! Appreciate your thoughts and experience about this.

 

[A2day]

My two cent on this self-moving brake concern. My EQE, contrary to the EQC, does move the brake pedal. It feels wrong at first but with time its really useful, as you know that the car is braking for you. I rather prefer to have that "tactile" experience in my foot than the phantom braking of my previous electric.

Also noticed that the Normal Regen (default) is harder than previous iterations. Not a full one-pedal driving-ish like the Tesla, but I've noticed using less the brake pedal (explicit braking).

Again, positive steps in my opinion, but the Tesla approach is to me much more interesting still.

 

[Sportstick]

My two cent on this self-moving brake concern. My EQE, contrary to the EQC, does move the brake pedal. It feels wrong at first but with time its really useful, as you know that the car is braking for you. I rather prefer to have that "tactile" experience in my foot than the phantom braking of my previous electric.

Also noticed that the Normal Regen (default) is harder than previous iterations. Not a full one-pedal driving-ish like the Tesla, but I've noticed using less the brake pedal (explicit braking).

Again, positive steps in my opinion, but the Tesla approach is to me much more interesting still.

Very interesting and good to hear a positive comment. It will be one of the things I look for in the EQS test drive soon. I wonder how my "muscle memory" will adapt back-and-forth as I switch between our upcoming EQE SUV and my other plaything with 3 pedals and a stick!

 

[A2day]

3 pedals and a stick!

AHAH...funny story. I drove manual cars all my life, but around 8 years ago I moved to auto.
All my family cars are auto for quite some time now, and a few months back I did a test drive on a manual car. Muscle "memory" actually made my left foot push the brake pedal. what a f-up.

 

[Sportstick]

AHAH...funny story. I drove manual cars all my life, but around 8 years ago I moved to auto.
All my family cars are auto for quite some time now, and a few months back I did a test drive on a manual car. Muscle "memory" actually made my left foot push the brake pedal. what a f-up.

Must have been quite a sudden stop! I've got a RWD, 6MT "keeper" from the "other" German brand that may eventually qualify as classic and will be around longer than I will once my son inherits it. Meanwhile, the mental dexterity needed to go back and forth between the number and behavior of pedals in both vehicles will help keep me young...I hope.

 

[A2day]

will help keep me young...I hope.

Set the goal to keep you in one piece! AHAH

kidding!

 

[bstringer]

I drove a 2014 Tesla Model S85 for 8 years until I traded it in towards an EQS580. I always had the regen set to high in the Models S. I always set regen to increased in the EQS. Regen is much stronger in the EQS and as a result I rarely need to apply the brakes. So, I really have not been troubled by the motion of the brake pedal during regen braking. I am annoyed that I must set regen to Increased every time I start the car. I do wish that the increased regen setting could be set as the default as it could in the Tesla.