[A2day]

After 22k miles in two years, sold my EQC.

It was a great first electric. Also proud of owning the first real electric Mercedes.

That said, let me give back my feedback of owning the Panzer (it’s nickname).

PROS:

• impressive acceleration for its weight
• AMG package was really good (aesthetics and ergonomics)
• ultra quiet inside (slower speeds)
• matrix headlights are great
• good boot capacity

CONS:

• tire wear (2.5 ton + 408hp = new front tires every 12k miles)
• asymmetric suspension and weight causes extreme rocking (feels like a boat in high seas). Why not using Air suspension all around?
• wind noise above 60mph - front side windows - Mercedes was unable to solve it
• low range - even living in country with good climate, never went over 225 miles

For generally the same price, moved to a single motor EQE. So far, seems a much better option if you are able to deal with the fact it’s not a SUV.

let me know if you need any specific clarification.
Cheers

 

[A2day]

 

[91Underwood]

After 22k miles in two years, sold my EQC.

It was a great first electric. Also proud of owning the first real electric Mercedes.

That said, let me give back my feedback of owning the Panzer (it’s nickname).

PROS:

• impressive acceleration for its weight
• AMG package was really good (aesthetics and ergonomics)
• ultra quiet inside (slower speeds)
• matrix headlights are great
• good boot capacity

CONS:

• tire wear (2.5 ton + 408hp = new front tires every 12k miles)
• asymmetric suspension and weight causes extreme rocking (feels like a boat in high seas). Why not using Air suspension all around?
• wind noise above 60mph - front side windows - Mercedes was unable to solve it
• low range - even living in country with good climate, never went over 225 miles

For generally the same price, moved to a single motor EQE. So far, seems a much better option if you are able to deal with the fact it’s not a SUV.

let me know if you need any specific clarification.
Cheers

Thanks for sharing this @A2day and congrats on your EQE! What do you think of it so far compared to your EQC?

 

[A2day]

Less than 1000 miles so far, so take my experience with a grain of salt.

The first (positive) impression is the ride quality—actually one of the biggest reasons to consider moving away from the EQC.
I got plenty of car sickness with the EQC, and had to ride on Sport setting most of the time to minimize body roll (not eliminate).

Being a RWD only, the punch is not the same as the EQC (0-60mph) is notoriously slower. That said, at highway speeds (above the speed limit) the streamlined design helps the EQE to flow easier.
So it actually feels it has more power than the EQC (although its 100hp below since its the 292bhp EQE350).
Still, its more than enough for a safe and non-sporty ride.... but a sport ride with the EQC was never an option.

Inside the EQE, the back seat has much room (better than the EQC). Since I have baby seats, helps a lot.

The boot is small, 100l liters down the EQC. No way around that.

Thats it... first impressions.
Hope it helps @91Underwood

 

[John L]

After 22k miles in two years, sold my EQC.

It was a great first electric. Also proud of owning the first real electric Mercedes.

That said, let me give back my feedback of owning the Panzer (it’s nickname).

PROS:

• impressive acceleration for its weight
• AMG package was really good (aesthetics and ergonomics)
• ultra quiet inside (slower speeds)
• matrix headlights are great
• good boot capacity

CONS:

• tire wear (2.5 ton + 408hp = new front tires every 12k miles)
• asymmetric suspension and weight causes extreme rocking (feels like a boat in high seas). Why not using Air suspension all around?
• wind noise above 60mph - front side windows - Mercedes was unable to solve it
• low range - even living in country with good climate, never went over 225 miles

For generally the same price, moved to a single motor EQE. So far, seems a much better option if you are able to deal with the fact it’s not a SUV.

let me know if you need any specific clarification.
Cheers

Thanks for the heads up and review of your EQC, I'm 3 weeks new to the EQC party and i have a question for you.
The range fully charged when i bought the car was 200 miles + and additional 30 miles (reserve) but in the three
weeks of ownership i noticed the fully charged mileage has reduced to 177 + additional 30 mile?
any ideas please?

 

[A2day]

Thanks for the heads up and review of your EQC, I'm 3 weeks new to the EQC party and i have a question for you.
The range fully charged when i bought the car was 200 miles + and additional 30 miles (reserve) but in the three
weeks of ownership i noticed the fully charged mileage has reduced to 177 + additional 30 mile?
any ideas please?

The maximum I could get (calculated range @ 100%) was 245 miles.
That meant, driving in Eco mode (not MR), not going over 50-60 mph, no heavy acceleration, keeping an eye on tire pressure, and finally doing all this in warm weather (20-30ºC).

Anything different that this meant reducing the range. On the opposite extreme, during a family emergency, I spent an entire battery in 125 miles.

If I drove it, the same way I was driving my previous diesel car, I would get 175-200 miles (same as you in reality).

 

[John L]

Thank you, so if i understand, the estimated mileage in the battery is based on historic driving style?

 

[A2day]

Thank you, so if i understand, the estimated mileage in the battery is based on historic driving style?

Correct... and it take a ton of time to respond to a sensible driving style.

So my recommendation is, to drive as sensible as you can, get a range figure that derives from that driving, and use it as a reference.

Drive the way you want, but if you need range on that specific day, revert back to your range reference and adopt that driving style.
(I didn't need extreme ranges every day... so I started to drive as I would my ICE car)

 

[A2day]

Mercedes under estimates range a lot. I also have a Tesla and they are faster to calculate the range based on the actual driving style. Doesn't seems to use that many historical references.

 

[John L]

thank you for taking the time to respond, i feel better now and was woried the car battery was on its way out. It's a shame that MB don't really tell you this kind of inportant information when you get the car.
keep well, thanks again.

 

[A2day]

thank you for taking the time to respond, i feel better now and was woried the car battery was on its way out. It's a shame that MB don't really tell you this kind of inportant information when you get the car.
keep well, thanks again.

Well truth is... no one tells you anything about electric cars. We keep saying Mercedes and other are learning from Tesla.. but the hard reality is that Tesla is worse or as bad as others.
They tell you zero about it... in fact most of the info we get from forums and youtube videos. Gladly we have this place here to talk about our EQs.

 

[Parkwood]

Very useful posting thank you. I find the ride on the EQC typical SUV and is the one thing I dislike about the car but it is not so bad that I want to change it yet nor that I cannot use the comfort setting, the GLK ( not sold in the U.K.) I had was much worse. Boot space is the killer for me the EQC is perfect for my day to day use though a bit small at times as I discovered recently when looking to buy a bike and I found that a decathlon folding bike would not fit easily due to the sloping rear roof! I also need a towbar and am not sure the EQE is homogulated for towing.
The GLK had the same sensation hitting resistance of pushing through the air on the motorways you suggest when talking about the EQE feeling slippier but I do not find the EQC bad in that regard.
I moved from the GLK to a c class and then e class estate and that is the form I prefer but it seems there is no chance of an electric estate. I also want 4matic as living in the french countryside there is a lot of mud to deal with and narrow lanes meaning you often have to use the grass verges which in winter can be deadly, having traction all round is very useful.
The EQE SUV is bigger than I really want and am not keen on having a car built in the states so I might wait and see if there is a new EQC but at this stage the EQE saloon has a lot of negatives for me, 2 wheel drive, less performance (though I am sure I could live with that), small boot, the form being a boot and not an open tailgate and the possible lack of a towbar, only positive full airmatic which both my estates had and which I miss on the EQC as it’s ground clearance is low and it would be handy to be able to raise it at times.
Do update as you live longer with the car.

 

[Parkwood]

thank you for taking the time to respond, i feel better now and was woried the car battery was on its way out. It's a shame that MB don't really tell you this kind of inportant information when you get the car.
keep well, thanks again.

I have spent the last year on this forum and another electric one patiently explaining the displayed and advertising range issues, how it relates to driving style and conditions and sadly also how when charging the car it is not a matter of x% of electricity gives y miles. You are right there has been a lack of education around the whole issue but just maybe if people had a better basic education and understanding they could work it out. There does need to be some sort of standard set so that people can understand exactly how their car is working out it’s suggested range and the parameters used ie just driving or driving and anticipated use of ancillaries like air con and what historical data it is using ie just the last journey or an average over x time or mileage.
I use the Mercedes’ me eco coach app which I would enthusiastically recommend as you earn points which can be redeemed for charging vouchers or to offset carbon. It has lots of tips but most importantly you get access to efficiency data of the last 5 days, weeks and months (why 5 I have no idea) so you can build up a good picture of efficiency, also how many kwh you have consumed in the period.
I on average get better than the WLTP figs for the car but as the cooler temps are coming that has not been the case this week but was for the last 5 weeks at 20.9kwh/100km with the WLTP being 21.5, over 5 months it was better at 20.4kwh.
I never ever really take any notice of the range figure rather battery% is my usual ref just because that was the one I latched onto first when I got the car so I know for certain trips I will use around x% and make sure I have enough on that basis. I home charge and tend to keep the car at 50% battery on the baisis that meets my needs and is recommended but when making a long trip I have gone to 100 but again if I know 80% or less will do I will charge accordingly.
I am very pleased with the efficiency of the car it is better than expected but I drive in very benign conditions of open rural roads restricted to 90km with little traffic few roundabouts or traffic lights etc hauling the beast through heavy stop start would I assume be much more fuel hungry.
I also use d auto all the time letting the car choose between regen coasting and slowing on approach to bends etc it works very well. On a return trip to my local village I expend nearly all the energy going there and coast back sometimes gaining a km or 2 on the way back down as the efficiency improves ie consumption may start at 25kwh/100 km but after coasting home most of the way as it is downhill it will be 22kwh/100km so the range goes up.
I have had mine over a year now and it has not disappointed (apart from delivery minus the Augmented Reality which it seems will never be retrofitted as promised which makes me very cross) I could never contemplate returning to an ICE the car does everything it promised and has been trouble free. The A service was only 247 euro incl the replacement of the front wiper blades so as promised cheaper than an ICE. I hope you have as good an experience as I have had.

 

[A2day]

Very useful posting thank you. I find the ride on the EQC typical SUV and is the one thing I dislike about the car but it is not so bad that I want to change it yet nor that I cannot use the comfort setting, the GLK ( not sold in the U.K.) I had was much worse. Boot space is the killer for me the EQC is perfect for my day to day use though a bit small at times as I discovered recently when looking to buy a bike and I found that a decathlon folding bike would not fit easily due to the sloping rear roof! I also need a towbar and am not sure the EQE is homogulated for towing.
The GLK had the same sensation hitting resistance of pushing through the air on the motorways you suggest when talking about the EQE feeling slippier but I do not find the EQC bad in that regard.
I moved from the GLK to a c class and then e class estate and that is the form I prefer but it seems there is no chance of an electric estate. I also want 4matic as living in the french countryside there is a lot of mud to deal with and narrow lanes meaning you often have to use the grass verges which in winter can be deadly, having traction all round is very useful.
The EQE SUV is bigger than I really want and am not keen on having a car built in the states so I might wait and see if there is a new EQC but at this stage the EQE saloon has a lot of negatives for me, 2 wheel drive, less performance (though I am sure I could live with that), small boot, the form being a boot and not an open tailgate and the possible lack of a towbar, only positive full airmatic which both my estates had and which I miss on the EQC as it’s ground clearance is low and it would be handy to be able to raise it at times.
Do update as you live longer with the car.

Thanks for your insights Parkwood.

For the record, I would not change the EQC myself. Yes, its an SUV, that leans in curves and it's heavy... but at the end of the day, the impressive acceleration and the silence balance things quite nicely. The thing was family members' complaints.. at the points where we were not using the car for trips.

The boot is quite good, and you can remove the boot floor for extra clearance. there is an extra 100L down there... and a few more cm.

I moved from a Volvo V90 to the EQC, so although less slippery at higher speeds the power was twice as much, making it nimbler than the estate.
That said, when moving back to the lower EQE, even with 100hp less, you can perceive a higher acceleration at an increased speed.

Ground clearance was an issue with the EQC. I had my garage entry redone, as it was scratching the underbelly quite hard. Additionally, the 2.5 ton also collapsed the entry (had to be reinforced with concrete).

The motion sickness and the absence of clearance was the reason why I moved to the EQE with the full Airmatic suspension.
Lost a lot of good stuff.... power, boot, 4matic, front light bar, best-looking rear end of the entire Mercedes lineup, and finally a car with a great soundtrack (Blinding Lights - The Weeknd)


Cheers,
A2day